Wood shop space rotation

Issue: The large 4x8 wood sheet unit (NE corner) needs to be relocated (for obvious reasons) because it is adjacent to the heavy metal shop.

First step: In anticipation of this, I have completed the following (see below).

Next step: Reach consensus on whether to move the 4x8 wood sheet storage to either:
(1) in the NW corner, next to the 3 phase panel (where the big floating table is presently parked).
(2) in the SE corner of the wood shop, just inside the big sliding door, where the old poison cabinet currently resides.

Status:
Over the last few days and tonight I cleaned the NW corner (left of big doors) and the big floating table (also cleaned, top and lower deck).

Lumber found scattered around is leant-up behind the big floating table with the junk wood toward the back. Various lengths of 2x4 lumber under the orange shelving (far end). There are also two boxes of wood (presumably someone’s project) at the end of the table.

Miscellany found on the top deck can be found in a clear plastic box on the second table rebuilt by @Petetheviking

Things on the lower deck were put back, some misc electrical cable in a brown plastic box. Also found two conduits (one labeled @Dmo); two florescent tubes; and, a stirrup pump laid together down centre.

This left the entire top deck and half the bottom deck clear.

The table was then floated alongside the yellow scaffolding and the contents shifted onto the big floating table - with help from others … and returned to the back corner.

Big floating table, back at home base, with contents of what had been on the yellow scaffolding shelving added.
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Then the yellow scaffolding was rolled N so that the far end lined up with the S (right) side of the opening to the heavy metal shop. … and the shelves flipped around so that they now overhang on the right, vice on the left (as before).

This is where I stopped, with the yellow scaffolding still unloaded.

Yellow scaffold shelving after clearing, cleaning, rolling and flipping the shelves around.
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I understand that we will need to use the yellow scaffolding as, well, scaffolding in the next month or two. However, after that we could return it to short term project storage as before (w parking tickets or whatever the tidy space group decides).

Next we need to decide or reach consensus on what happens next…

It has been decided that the 8x4 storage in the back NE corner, next to the heavy metal shop, has to be moved in order to eliminate combustible materials from the immediate vicinity of the heavy metal shop.

Two options for where to reposition it are:

(1) in the NW corner, next to the 3 phase panel (where the big floating table is presently parked).
(2) in the SE corner of the wood shop, just inside the big sliding door, where the old poison cabinet currently resides.

For what it’s worth, IMHO, option #2 is preferable, because:

(A) the big floating table would not be displaced from its current cosy home base.
(B) the sheet wood would not only be far from the heavy metal shop, but also away from exterior walls, minimizing risk from water damage.

If this is agreed, then I propose that the long wood shelving (2x4 construction) is dismantled and then reassembled with the following changes in dimensions:

(1) approximately 18" shorter so as to fit between the yellow scaffolding shelving unit and the relocated 4x8 wood sheet storage;
(2) approximately 24" deeper to increase shelf storage capacity; and,
(3) increase clearance below bottom shelf to accommodate parking space for wheeled machines such as the jointer, possibly metal band saws.

Notes:

(1) this would require to also either cut down the shelving on the yellow scaffolding shelving; OR, make new shelving cut to fit the length of the yellow scaffolding shelving unit. Since we probably need to keep the current scaffolding decks for when actually needed for use as scaffolding, we probably should make new shelving for when in use as short term project storage.

(2) optionally, we could add “doors” to the reassembled wood shelving… not because we need doors, but rather because they could be valuable storage for hand tools (both inside and outside). The door panel could be, for example, ½’ plywood, with a frame around of, say, 8" wide ¾" thick planks on edge, so that the doors would actually be 8" deep, with the panel fixed mid-way. This would provide vertical storage space on both sides of each door, just under 4" deep. Or, use 10’ or even 12" wide planks for deeper pocket space. To support the weight, heavy hinges would be needed, plus roller casters under the outside corners of the doors (possibly sprung, to accommodate uneven floor or litter on the floor).

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Nice work!!!

I think we’re all largely in agreement with (2) in the SE corner of the wood shop Does anyone have an issue with that?

I agree with the (1) approximately 18" shorter so as to fit .
As for (2) 24" deeper, I think we could make it a bit deeper, but I worry that might make it too deep, and items in the back would be hard to reach for smaller people.

Do we know how much taller we’d need to make the lower shelf to accommodate the jointer underneath it?

24" deeper
Maybe 24" deeper is a bit much, we should do some experiments to determine the appropriate depth (as well as look at equipment such as the small wood lathes that could potentially be stored end-on or at an angle for ease of access, rather than laterally, one in front of another, as is the case now.
Raise bottom shelf to increase clearance below
I have the feeling that the clearance below the bottom shelf is less at Venables than when it was at Cook. But, anyway, when at Cook, I measured it and we would only have needed to raise it barely (not even) 3" to create clearance for the jointer. (If not for the impending move, I was tempted to insert two thickness of 2x4 under it in order to raise the whole frame by 3".)

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Last night, @Reuben @Enquire and I did some more work on the Wood shop rotation. The main tool shelving has been moved over and we started work on the sheet material storage space. The tools are temporarily back on the yellow scaffold shelving.

We put up some backing to protect the backside of the dry wall in the machine shop. We still need to put up some backing along the right hand side as well. We’ve identified some pieces that will possibly work in that area, and left them up against the wall there to be cut to fit into place next time.

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See the future wood sheet (4’ x 8’) storage location under construction here:
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This corner is about 5’ deep (1.5 m) deep and about 42" (1.07 m) wide and we intend to split it into two sections of (up to) about 18" (0.45 m) wide after framing. Currently, we are screwing MDF board to the naked wood studs at the back and side.
We are looking to install a smooth base to mitigate damage to bottom edge of sheets … a piece of Arborite (maybe salvage from old kitchen counter top) or some other surface might be suitable.
Meanwhile, we are curious what will happen to the remaining stud wall at the left side of the old storage. Will this be used to enclose the big blue compressor (sound insulation, perhaps), or could it be used for the sheet wood storage?
Note, during the general clean-up, scrap wood was collected from around the wood shop and leant up against this wall. Unless anyone wants any, it is destined for the dump. (Some potentially usable large MDF sheets have since been added, these will should probably keep … but the wood behind is obviously scrap)
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Tonight, I fixed the flapping drywall (behind the 2x4 shelving at the right end) with drywall screws and attached a ~7" wide strip of fibreboard behind the right edge, but extending out about 3" … to act as a mending plate so that the drywall and fibreboard can be joined. I also screwed a doorstop to the floor to prevent the machine shop door handle busting through the drywall on the other side. And, with a little help from Josh (?), a new member, screwed a piece of scrap wood on the inside of the wall to close the hole in the drywall created by the machine shop door handle. I guess one of the drywall crew can finish the repair…

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The is a 8’ long sheet of fibreboard cut to 37" wide waiting to be installed at the back. It was a tight fit and we couldn’t quite tuck it behind the edge of the fibreboard previously installed on the adjacent wall. I used a small chisel and hand pressure (no hammer required) to nibble away at a 12" or so edge (lower down), but no time to try again.

It may be necessary to chisel off a sliver more (between about 12" and 30" from the bottom) so that the back panel can fully tuck behind the back edge of the side panel. However, it may be necessary to run the back panel through the table saw again to take off 3 or 5 mm (cut to 37" which should fit, but might be too tight).

Note, f it is necessary to use the table saw, this is really a two person operation. Use the wood bench for outtfeed table and possibly improvise for infeed. Safety first!

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I managed to put in some work yesterday and built up the frame for the sheet storage.
This is what it looks like now.


Originally thinking of adding another wall dividing the area in two but looks like a single 32" wide space would be better than two ~14" spaces. we can always add it later on.
Next up:

  1. installing the particle board sheets.
  2. installing a couple of cross braces on the wooden shelving unit (seems a bit too wobbly).
  3. move tools off the yellow scaffolding to the wooden shelves.
  4. TBD
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looks great.

Brilliant @Reuben, thanks!

Feel free to promote a work party so you can get some help!

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Thanks for getting the sheet storage set up. Are there some guidelines for storage in terms of labelling with name / date etc?

It’s gone over briefly here:

https://vanhack.ca/doku.php?id=area:material_storage

But basically name and date your stuff, also feel free to use stuff older than six months because it is probably abandoned/forgotten by that point and if it doesn’t get used up, we’ll have to move to a bigger space again to store it all

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