[FIXED] Laser was down due to burnt out laser tube


#21

Well, that’s bad timing. How dare that machine break now? Why couldn’t it have waited until after my mom’s visit? I wanted to show her how it worked by making something cool for her! (grumble, grumble) :cry:

Thanks for the update, LCC. And thanks for your hard work on the laser cutter.


#22

Yeah thanks guys you rock! I wouldn’t know where to start (which probably explains why I’m not on the LCC)


#23

Hi guys, thank you so much for taking care, ordering the parts, investing your time, etc. Feel free to count on me if you need any help. I will be more than glad to offer my time as well. Have a great evening.


#24

I wasn’t able to find a schematic for the power supply while searching online, but I’m still willing to attempt a fix. Am at VHS right now (Wed Mar 1 8:15pm ), so if I get permission from a Laser committee member within an hour or two, I will take a look.


#25

You’ve got my permission. It sounds like you know what you’re doing and will be safe. Please report back with what you find!

I believe we left it back near the laser cutter on the floor. Please return it when you are done.


#26

Thanks, will peek around, but won’t actually attempt repairs today. Just a scouting mission for what parts are being used and how, so I can look up some datasheets. If I find anything unusual, I’ll let you all know. BTW, do you know if VHS has a resistor dummy load to take place of the laser tube while testing power supply?


#27

Take lots of pictures!


#28

Yes, I have seen a few large wattage resistors and an adjustable 10ohm 50watt potentiometer as well. If you can’t find them pm me and I can meet you at the space.

Also, it’s worth pointing out that the laser’s power supply died a few months ago and it was replaced. I believe the old power supply is in a box labelled power supplies under (or near) the microscope bench. That means you would have two power supplies to play with.

I have some 40KV wire if you need some for testing as well.


#29

Do we have the “speeds and feeds” of the power supply handy? Maybe a photo of its spec plate? Never mind, I can click links!

Just for fun I googled [co2 laser power supply schematic] and there’s a lot of DIY action if anyone is feeling brave. :slight_smile:


#30

Photos of our (dusty) JLD80W laser cutter power supply:
Below, dual Flyback transformers with main 22KV laser tube output (anode) wire at bottom left:

Below, bottom of power supply board showing 4 main switching MOSFETS that drive the flybacks. The white residue is normal. It’s thermal compound that helps transfer heat to the outer case :

Below, Side view showing daughter board, the logic control “brains” of the power supply and (current?) calibration pots in blue near top:

Below, Top down view of main PS board showing flybacks on the left and the big blue filter capacitors that feed them with DC (rectified) mains power The four black lumps below them are the main bridge rectifier and the LC line filter capacitors and inductor. Below them are two ceramic power fuses (white) and the RF suppression caps (small blue) and control logic wiring connectors (green).

So far, no obvious visual signs of physical damage such as burning, arcing, blown caps or cracked solder joints. Will do more in depth testing at next opportunity. Will any key holders be at VHS tonight? I don’t see any calendar entries for this evening.


Does any one know what this PCB (looks like High Voltage Power Supply) is for? Location: Laser Cutter Enclosure
#31

Nice!

The opaque fuses on the bottom there seem like like a low-effort target.


#32

Fuses both tested ok on meter.


#33

I’m an electronics n00b, but A couple of pins (in the daughterboard connectors?) look like they might be bridged (green underlines in image), plus the general dirtiness might be hiding problems.

Presumably very little of the dust will contain conductive materials, but you never know, you know?


#34

Wow this is so awesome. Thanks for the pics. I’m excited to see what you
try next.


#35

@DerrickA4mag if you want to come down to the space and work on the HV power supplies, PM me, I can meet you there and open up for you


#36

Thanks Hector,
I appreciate your offer to open the space. Would some time this afternoon, or this evening, be ok? An hour (or more) advance notice would be best. Am in Burnaby, so it takes about an hour to hop on the skytrain, and walk to VHS.

Derrick


#37

I plan on being there after lunch and leaving around 6pm if that helps.


#38

Ok, thanks to Hector and Mike, it sounds like someone will be at the space, so I’ll aim to arrive at 1:00pm today.


#39

Will PM on my specific plans, looks like my lunch just got pushed back to 12:30


#40

Laser filtration System.

My question / suggestion.

If we are using a filter box, then we should be using a furnace fan with enough pressure / suction to draw air through the filter. The booster fan I see has high CFU, but low pressure. Is it able to draw air through the filters? I suspect not?